i think tomorrow morning, the pundits are going to start do the who said what at what time and we'll have proof of some of this, but, again, john mccain who knows how to win a war. who's been there and he's faced challenges and he knows what evil is and knows what it takes to overcome the challenges here with our military. he knows to learn from the mistakes and blunders we have seen in the war in iraq, especially. he will know how to implement the strategies, working with our commanders and listening to what they have to say, taking the politics out of these war issues. he'll know how to win a war. >> thank you, governor. probably the biggest cliche about the vice-presidency is that it's a heartbeat away, everybody's waiting to see what would happen if the worst happened. how would -- you disagree on some things from your principles, you disagree on drilling in alaska, the national wildlife refuge, you disagree on the surveillance law, at least you have in the past. how would a biden administration be different from an obama administration if that were to happen. >> god forbid that